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Council says "nein" to Lidl supermarket bid

11:50am Thursday 3rd July 2008

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GERMAN supermarket chain Lidl's bid to open in Bridport got an emphatic answer from the town council this week - NEIN!

Members of the plans committee voted unanimously to object to the application after warnings that it could turn the centre into a "ghost town".

They fear the cut-price supermarket would put many small traders out of business - robbing Bridport of its "viability and vitality".

"We don't need it," was Mayor Martin Ray's message to district planners.

"The overwhelming view in the town is that we should find some reason to refuse this."

Lidl has applied to build its store next to builders' merchants Travis Perkins in St Andrew's Road.

The new supermarket will offer cut-price groceries and create some 35 jobs.

As part of a joint application, Travis Perkins would replace its headquarters with up to date buildings, financed by the money it gets from Lidl, adding some five extra jobs to its current 25-strong workforce.

But opponents say it could turn Bridport into a ghost town, taking business from existing traders and the twice weekly market, as well as causing traffic chaos along the already congested St Andrew's Road.

Coun Ray said that many town centre shopkeepers were only hanging on by the skin of their teeth now.

To gain permission Lidl had to prove a need for the store and that it would not affect the high street - and there was no way they could do that.

Chairman Ros Kayes said Lidl had made much of supplying a niche market with low cost food - a limited range not provided by others in the town. But she said their own figures estimated they would still take some £300,000 worth of business from local traders, which the small businesses and market stallholders could ill afford to lose.

"It's going to have a significant impact on the town centre, reducing turnover in local stores by about six per cent. It's the difference for smaller local business of keeping their heads above water and failure," she said.

Coun David Tett said they did not want to end up with a ghost town. He also opposed the plan because of the increase traffic in St Andrew's Road the new store would create.

Coun Kayes said before deciding the committee should consider the other side. Feedback in the Bridport News showed there were people who wanted Lidl to come to provide cheap food, especially as rising fuel prices meant trips to the company's stores at Weymouth and Chard were becoming more costly.

Travis Perkins also needed the Lidl money to enable it to replace its out of date buildings.

And Coun Mark Parsons said people should have freedom of choice.

"I don't think we should write them off completely but perhaps this is not necessarily the right site," he said.

**The committee reached its decision after hearing protests from a packed public gallery and receiving a petition opposing the Lidl plan, signed by 557, from the St Andrew's Road Residents' Association.

The committee's grounds for objection are that: * There is no proven need for another supermarket.

* It will harm the viability and vitality of the town centre.

*There were concerns over flooding on the site, the extra traffic it would generate and its effect on the sustainability of the town centre.


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free wessex, Bridport says...
11:59am Thu 3 Jul 08

With regard the Council position on Lidl locating to Bridport was it hardley suprising that the idea was rejected when the Mayor Cllr C M Ray, Cllr Mrs M Ray, Cllr N Cast,Cllr RJ Stoodley, are all listed as residents of St Andrews Road Bridport. Not in my back yard?

Mike, Portland says...
2:54pm Thu 3 Jul 08

free wessex wrote:
With regard the Council position on Lidl locating to Bridport was it hardley suprising that the idea was rejected when the Mayor Cllr C M Ray, Cllr Mrs M Ray, Cllr N Cast,Cllr RJ Stoodley, are all listed as residents of St Andrews Road Bridport. Not in my back yard?
Seems to me that Lidl have got the perfect grounds for appeal & i hope when the council get stuck with a huge bill for legal fees the councilors should be asked to pay it themselves.

relievedofBridport, Bridport says...
5:50pm Thu 3 Jul 08

Thank Goodness. Never mind the sour grapes. Its precisely the charm and character of the Bridport High Street that ploughs money from visitors into the economy. "Let's go to Bridport they've got a great Lidl" - I think not - the CO-OP and Morrisons is more than enough. Whoever would want to sell the lifeblood of their town for the price of a bag of spuds!! - some things are more important.PS I do not live on St Andrews Road.

free wessex, Bridport says...
6:44pm Thu 3 Jul 08

relievedofBridport wrote:
Thank Goodness. Never mind the sour grapes. Its precisely the charm and character of the Bridport High Street that ploughs money from visitors into the economy. \"Let\'s go to Bridport they\'ve got a great Lidl\" - I think not - the CO-OP and Morrisons is more than enough. Whoever would want to sell the lifeblood of their town for the price of a bag of spuds!! - some things are more important.PS I do not live on St Andrews Road.
I think you missed the point, using your phrase
"some thing are more important" Yes exactly, how the officials who run the town council conduct themselves in planning matters is one. QED

relievedofBridport, Bridport says...
7:20pm Thu 3 Jul 08

free wessex wrote:
relievedofBridport wrote: Thank Goodness. Never mind the sour grapes. Its precisely the charm and character of the Bridport High Street that ploughs money from visitors into the economy. \\\"Let\\\'s go to Bridport they\\\'ve got a great Lidl\\\" - I think not - the CO-OP and Morrisons is more than enough. Whoever would want to sell the lifeblood of their town for the price of a bag of spuds!! - some things are more important.PS I do not live on St Andrews Road.
I think you missed the point, using your phrase \"some thing are more important\" Yes exactly, how the officials who run the town council conduct themselves in planning matters is one. QED
I am not missing the point at all. Just because some councillors live on St Andrews Road does not mean people should assume their decision is biased. The only thing that matters is was the decision right for Bridport - Yes it was.

DismayedofBridport, Bridport says...
7:23pm Thu 3 Jul 08

It would appear that the councillers whom voted have overlooked the point as far as low cost shopping is concerned.
Lidl would act as a magnet to draw people to Bridport. As we now are forced to travel to Weymouth or Chard for our food shopping we will do the rest of the shopping whilst we are there.

relievedofbridport, Bridport says...
7:44pm Thu 3 Jul 08

DismayedofBridport wrote:
It would appear that the councillers whom voted have overlooked the point as far as low cost shopping is concerned. Lidl would act as a magnet to draw people to Bridport. As we now are forced to travel to Weymouth or Chard for our food shopping we will do the rest of the shopping whilst we are there.
I really do not understand this way of thinking. There is a great big Morrisons in Bridport. When you offset the cost of petrol at goodness knows what a litre to travel to Chard or Weymouth - you might as well just go to Morrisons for the few quid people imagine they might save.

free wessex, bridport says...
7:46pm Thu 3 Jul 08

relievedofBridport When the minutes of the meeting are published,
as of this afternoon 03/07/08 they were not available, we shall see, It would be very serious should any member of the Planning Comittee/Town Council domiciled adjacent to the proposed site not to have declared an "interest". It could also be illegal for him/her to vote on the issue.
If there was ever a reason for a local referendum on local issues this, surely is one - given the urgent need to reduce household costs.
Finally Lidl may have grounds for appeal.
Should this be successful the council may get stuck with a huge bill for legal fees.

Sal Robinson, Bridport says...
7:47am Fri 4 Jul 08

According to a survey on the BBC Website (http://news.bbc.co.

uk/1/hi/magazine/748

6417.stm) only about 2% of people shop at Lidl. Tesco has the lion's share at about 27%, Morrisons has 10% and Somerfield 4%.
The survey also reckons that people are shopping around more to save money, now that prices escalating due to fuel costs.
Bridport thrives on competition. 3 independent bakers with 4 shops, 2 greengrocers, 3 butchers, 3 bike shops, 2 dispensing chemists. And corner shops. Many larger towns don't have anything comparable.
Lidl is not a "superstore" and most of its "specials" are on sale for a week or so or until stocks run out.

Sal Robinson, Bridport says...
7:47am Fri 4 Jul 08

According to a survey on the BBC Website (http://news.bbc.co.

uk/1/hi/magazine/748

6417.stm) only about 2% of people shop at Lidl. Tesco has the lion's share at about 27%, Morrisons has 10% and Somerfield 4%.
The survey also reckons that people are shopping around more to save money, now that prices escalating due to fuel costs.
Bridport thrives on competition. 3 independent bakers with 4 shops, 2 greengrocers, 3 butchers, 3 bike shops, 2 dispensing chemists. And corner shops. Many larger towns don't have anything comparable.
Lidl is not a "superstore" and most of its "specials" are on sale for a week or so or until stocks run out.

Joanne Brandon, Loders says...
2:24pm Fri 4 Jul 08

A typical decision by our out of touch reactionary council. There are many people in the Bridport area who would benefit from a Lidl. Not least the 35 who would have jobs. I have not noticed Weymouth town centre being a 'ghost town' and they have had a Lidl for years. This is a time of great economic uncertainty and we need all the help that is available. As for the charm of Bridport, does that include all the charity shops?

relievedofBridport, Bridport says...
3:59pm Fri 4 Jul 08

Joanne Brandon wrote:
A typical decision by our out of touch reactionary council. There are many people in the Bridport area who would benefit from a Lidl. Not least the 35 who would have jobs. I have not noticed Weymouth town centre being a 'ghost town' and they have had a Lidl for years. This is a time of great economic uncertainty and we need all the help that is available. As for the charm of Bridport, does that include all the charity shops?
Yes it does as a matter of fact.

free wessex, bridport says...
5:39pm Fri 4 Jul 08

I think Charity shops are exempt business rate or certainly get a reduced rate or some form of tax break where as Lidl would pay a premium

DismayedofBridport, Bridport says...
9:55pm Fri 4 Jul 08

Weymouth still provides better value for money after taking account of transport costs & for the Bus Pass holders knocks spots off .
Morrisons in Weymouth has cheap fuel, so combine that with your shop .
Not all of us can afford bistro prices when we just want food. No wonder the young are forced out by the lack of opportunity to live on a low budget.

Tim Graham, Oxford says...
9:57am Sat 5 Jul 08

I am appalled by the hysterical reaction of The Bridport News continually making an issue of the nationality of Lidl. Noone seems to mind all the other household name shops in Bridport making their profit and not spending it in the locality. Are people still fighting WW2?

john tattershall, wych hill,bridport says...
1:33pm Sat 5 Jul 08

Surely the council is there to broadly represent the opinions of the majority, it would seem that between 80 to 90% of "locals" are in favour, with the no's mainly from the St Andrews road area. This has always been an industrial site and a Lidl,s store with new buildings for Travis Perkins would tidy up the area. Lidl,s in my opinion would not take business away from the town,just from the other supermarkets, and lets face it Morrisons could do with some genuine competition. We travel to Chard to Lidl,s, because they offer real good value,for people who cannot afford to shop in one of the major supermarkets.

J Lewis, says...
2:56pm Sat 5 Jul 08

What a shame that Lidl is not coming to Bridport. We shop in Yeovil or Weymouth which is much cheaper even taking the petrol into account. How do the young couples manage? The house prices are high, the wages are low and the food is more expensive.

I hope Lidl appeal.

Tony C, Bridport says...
9:28am Sun 6 Jul 08

Do our councillors actually believe that Bridport would become a ghost town! Or are they just so out of touch with the electorate.
This project is in real danger of being scuppered by the "Whoever shouts loudest gets their own way" mentality. I have lived and worked in Bridport ALL my life. We NEED a good mix of industry/shopping for our growing population. And actually do something proactive to attract new business to the area.

John, Middle East says...
10:14am Tue 8 Jul 08

Dear All,
lets put this into perspective, for i am a third party who spent 25 years in bridport before taking temporary leave, consider me as neutral.
remember the arrival of Safeway? The same kind of issues arose, "you cant take away our fields!" then from the other side of the river came "Yay, a job that the education system has qualified me for".
As always there will be a mixed bag.
Now this particular issue can be viewed in many ways depending on whether your SARRF (St Andrews Rd Resistance Force)or jobless, in need of low cost shopping or maybe you just fancy a change? For me, change is good and around it new habitats will develop but what is a shame, is that others may well dwindle, I used to use the Co op, (that doesnt make me SARRF) but one thing we all have in common is our love for the small town life. Its about going in and saying hi to the checkout girl who knows your name and your mum and your brother becuase she went out with your cousins friends niece and once she slipped over on the wet drain cover out side the George on market day and cut her lip so you gave her a hanky.
What Im trying to say is that lets stop all this small talk and concentrate on our small town, togeather, for many of the small talkers may well have too much time on thier hands and maybe a trip to the Lidl in weynouth would be a nice little outing for them.
Then maybe reducing the grip of other major supermarkets in out town is a good way for Bridport to stand up and say "hey, we wont be pushed around by you super companies, we want choice!"
The bottom line is, we dont get much choice anyway and whatever happens we will live to accept it or grow old bitter and twisted.
Enjoy life, enjoy Bridport, its the most beatiful place in the world.

Tim Hatton, bedfordshire says...
8:57pm Wed 9 Jul 08

As a regular visitor to Bridport,the prices are far to high and a little local competition never did any harm,dont the council understand there is a recession on and people need help with the cost of living,In the right place it would be good for the town,bring it on!!

Bill Stanley, Bridport says...
8:23am Thu 10 Jul 08

If the parish council and the local residents have their way the Lidl will not be built. Clearly Travis Perkins do not wish, or not able, to continue trading as things stand so may well close. So something will have to be done with the site. For years the town has been seeking a suitable location for a new waste transfer facility. St Andrews Road would be the perfect location. Forget a supermarket - we really need a new, and superior type of, rubbish dump - problem solved!

Grump Old Man, South Walk says...
12:52pm Thu 10 Jul 08

It's so lucky the so called local representatives don't have the final say on planning issues. If they did it would be like France or Italy a bureaucratic nightmare. Why don't the councilors help the local shops by lobbying the district council to lower business rates, I wish I could afford to do my shopping in the town centre shops and get the so called local products.
We need a Lidl in this town to save on petrol so i don't have to travel to Weymouth or Yeovil just to get some affordable shopping.

free wessex, bridport says...
3:59pm Wed 16 Jul 08

Post script to this story.

The Co-Op bought Somerfield today July 16th 2008

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